YOUR OPINION 6/27/2009


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Reject extensions on KOZ projects

Editor: What happened to the firm stance that Scranton City Council had regarding the KOZ giveaway program? Why table all of them one week, only to selectively approve certain ones the next week?

It makes no sense to give one entity in the development at Tripp Park approval for an extension, while denying other developers in that same area.

If anyone other than Janet Evans actually had a backbone on council, they would've denied ALL of them.

Each of these businesses had ample chance to exploit the tax abatement program and to get those properties up and running before the coverage lapsed.

From part of the article in The Times-Tribune on Wednesday, it seems as if some potential occupants of the new business park were threatening to not move in unless they received the abatement.

GOOD. We don't need you here in Scranton, go find some other host community to go leech off of for 10 years or so.

All too often local communities give away the farm for these companies coming here with the promise of "good- paying jobs" and once they get their greedy mitts into the taxpayers' pockets they want more, more and more.

Even better is that these good-paying jobs they promise go up in smoke and they replace them with jobs paying barely above minimum wage. We've seen it happen before and it'll happen again because the local taxing bodies don't know how to say no to these greedy so and sos.

I just hope the school board isn't as stupid as the county and the City Council and they put a halt to any of these KOZ extensions. We don't need anymore people not paying taxes. After all, we already have the University of Scranton taking up half the Hill Section and not paying taxes on a majority of the buildings.

MICHAEL KOHUT Scranton

Hot dog!

Editor: A welcome back to the new Coney Island. I went there opening day to say hello to the owner and to have the best hot dog in are area, and I could not believe my eyes. There were people standing in line, and waiting in line was the best time for me.

The owners welcomed everyone that came in and the service was at the top of the list. With the newly remolded building, it was very nice to sit there and see people you used to see before the fire, and talk about the old times, and how times change.

All of the people who go there are very proud and glad the owner did what he did - come back to Scranton and keep the good old welcome.                                                                                               JOHN ROY WILLIAMS

scranton

No Hope out there

Editor:  I suppose a letter about taste and decency will seem hopelessly outdated in today's reality-TV-obsessed world, but I'm hoping there are still a few people out there who agree with what I'm about to write.

Recently a popular late-night talk show host made an inappropriate comment about a governor's teenage daughter on national television and received no censure for it.

In fact, I would not be surprised to learn that his ratings have received a boost because of it, and it also wouldn't surprise me if he received a raise.

This appears to be business as usual in a Howard Stern world, where comedians claim the right to spin the facts as they seem fit in the name of the almighty laugh. 

I don't think Howard Stern or those subscribing to his particular brand of humor would find it so funny if someone made light of something important to him, like his ethnicity, his religion, or a difficult or trying period in his life. Yet, according to the modern comedians' credo, any of these topics are fair game as long as the person on the receiving end of this type of humiliation is a "public figure."

To this day, the greatest comedian that I can think of is Bob Hope, who made millions of people laugh without offending anyone in a decades-long career. Today's comedians should take a page from his book and realize that if they can't tell a knock-knock joke and get a laugh then maybe it's time to shut up and get a real job.

PATRICK J. GRIFFIN

Scranton

Art's bleak picture

Editor: Are the arts in Pennsylvania approaching their version of a "nuclear winter?"

Are the lights in theaters going dark as drama groups cannot buy scripts or paint for scenery?

Are world-class museums and orchestras cutting their programs and causing a ripple effect to closing restaurants and hotels in places like Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Scranton and cities and town of all sizes?

Are the doors of refrigerators barren without your children's artwork because children are tossing their crayons in the trash because there are no drawing classes in school?

Are the voices of choirs, musical comedies, folk singers and jazz groups silenced because arts funding cannot be found in the Keystone State?

Please call your representatives to see if they understand the gravity of the destructive domino effect that would result from any departure from the proposed $14 million budget for the Pennsylvania Council on the Arts.

ROBERT N. LETTIERI

Chairman, Citizens for the Arts in Pennsylvania

Scranton

Seeing too much

Editor: After reading "Watching Your Every Move" in the June 22 Times-Tribune, about surveillance cameras in Lancaster, it seems Orwell's terrifying futuristic novel "1984" has come to full fruition.  

Eric Blair's (Orwell's real name) book is celebrating its 60th anniversary and, while some seem to understand  its basic tenets - Big Brother, double speak, power, propaganda, language corruption - this prophetic work of anti-utopian literature takes on a new urgency today. 

From citizens of London being recorded on average 300 times a day by 4.2 million closed-circuit television cameras, to the police chief in Houston calling for monitoring people in their own homes, the balance between privacy and security is being eroded. 

But perhaps the most disturbing of Orwell's prophesies coming true is the way the use of propaganda is distorting the language.

Orwell was cognizant of the degrading use of words and the way it made thinking critically, historically and freely about the complex world we live in very difficult. 

Much like Thomas Paine before him - another perceptive prophetic writer -Orwell does not easily fall into partisan niches of a right/left political paradigm. Instead he is embraced by people of all ideological persuasions who still can think, feel and have an unquenchable desire for freedom and privacy. As Ben Franklin once said: "They who give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security."

JEFFREY PETRUCCI

  South Abington Twp.







21 posted comments

Thanks U NO HOO.
Should have known better than to just trust Sted's accusations.
It's hard to imagine the depth of hate that occupies a liberal's mind-set.
I cannot conceive that they are inculcating their children with their animosity but I'm sure it's happening every day. So sad.
Paul Chrastina 06/30/2009 00:42
"How about when Rush compared President Clinton's 13- year old daughter to a dog? Did he apologize for deriding a teen age girl?
Or how about this statement by Ann Coulter, "If I'm going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I'll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot." Did she apologize for advocating the murder of another human being."

Both claims are false. Go here:

http://lyingliar.com/?p=17

and here:

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=21345

If I were A-Rod I'd hope for an apology. A-Rod doesn't have a reputation of impregnating minors or others promiscuously.

U NO HOO 06/29/2009 20:36
Join me Dave, in the "Guest Columns"- Opinion Page--"National Health care reform" by Denise Cesare. I'm interested in your take on it. I expect we have a basic disagreement ?
Paul Chrastina 06/29/2009 18:42
Good for you Paul. Nary a mention about A-Rod from the media.
dave foglietta 06/29/2009 16:49
As I said before, I believe that A-Rod should definitely get an apology from Letterman.
I didn't say that before ?
OK, you got me Dave.
Don't know where my head was when reading your post but I agree with you, he should demand an apology.
Paul Chrastina 06/29/2009 15:55
You tell me Paul why he shouldn't get an apology. What if you were accused of knocking up a young girl, even in jest? Wouldn't you want an apology?
dave foglietta 06/29/2009 06:43
Moderator,

Am I being "censored" by you?

U NO HOO 06/28/2009 22:26
"You right wingers would be simply pathetic if you were not such vicious sociopaths."

Kind of vicious to call some one vicious, don't you think, I mean "Don't you think?"

U NO HOO 06/28/2009 22:21
"Staying above the fray " ?
Why, pray tell, would A-Rod deserve an apology ?

Vince;
Ignore entertainers remarks ? I'll buy that but the girl will be stigmatized by her peers and we know how cruel some teens can be.
Unfortunately, Letterman's ratings have risen and for the first time, he beat "The Tonight Show " .
Maybe that says more about the average American than we want to know ?

Paul Chrastina 06/28/2009 19:52
Re the Letterman joke, what gets lost in all the flap is that nobody ever apologized to A-Rod.
dave foglietta 06/28/2009 17:44
"You right wingers would be simply pathetic if you were not such vicious sociopaths."

Kind of vicious to call some one vicious, don't you think, I mean "Don't you think?"

U NO HOO 06/28/2009 14:54
Why is it that liberals will rush to defend the remarks of a fellow liberal regardless of the charge ?
Sted, Clinton is a public figure and will be remembered in history as the deviate who disgraced the oval office.
John Edwards fathered a child with his mistress while his wife was diagnosed with terminal cancer. Also, a public figure.
If Rush did refer to Chelsea Clinton as a dog, that was a despicable comment and should be condemned. He should have been censured ! I don't recall his making the remark but Chelsea was not a public and the comment was wrong.
"Public figure" is the important consideration.
I'm not comparing Obama to Hitler but I do believe that the guy is the worst president we've ever had and considering that Gerald Ford also held that office, that's saying something . Wait until "the chickens come home to roost" as his pastor, the Rev Wright, once said. Of course Obama never heard that, or "God D##M America or any of the other obscenities uttered from the pulpit. How sad.
Pathetic ? Look in the mirror Sted.
Paul Chrastina 06/28/2009 10:41
Paul,
Fair point that I didn't add to the discussion on that topic, but my opinion is if you can't take the "heat" when in politics you need to leave the kitchen. Palin can't have her cake and eat it too. The best way for people to deal with Letterman's joke is to no longer watch letterman, polling will indicate the drop in audience #'s, and the sponsors will leave. I just think we care too much about "pop culture". Had a serious "liberal" journalist made a snarky remark like that in a column or on CNN, I think its worth caring about, but otherwise, I think we need to start ignoring entertainers opinions on politics.
Vince Cruciani 06/28/2009 10:09
How about all of you raging right wing reactionaries censuring the head of Anne Arundel GOP women's club who let loose with a rant comparing Obama to Hitler. Joyce E. Thomann posted a letter on a political Web site that drew comparisons between President Barack Obama and German dictator Adolf Hitler.
If anyone made such a comparison between Bush AND ANY of the numerous warmongering leaders in world history you rightwingnuts would have gone ballistic.
Just observe your reaction to a joke, albeit a crude one made in the poorest of taste, uttered by a late night TALK SHOW host. Mr. Letterman is still savaging President Clinton over his sexual encounter with a White House lo these many years later.
U NO HOO writes, "What have Rush and/or Ann said that compares to David?" How about when Rush compared President Clinton's 13- year old daughter to a dog? id he apologize for deriding a teen age girl?
Or how about this statement by Ann Coulter, "If I'm going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I'll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot." Did she apologize for advocating the murder of another human being.
You right wingers would be simply pathetic if you were not such vicious sociopaths.
Sted 06/28/2009 00:19
Vince;
"Who cares about a late night TV Joke"?
Let us assume that the joke told by Letterman mentioned Ms.Cruciani having been "Knocked up " by the ball player.
Somehow I think your devil-may-care attitude would disappear ?
I'm in complete agreement with the remarks of Jeffrey Petrucci and your assessment of our current state of affairs but to dismiss comments just as pertinent as being unimportant doesn't add to the overall discussion.
Indeed, U NO, Imus Was censured.
Paul Chrastina 06/28/2009 00:02
Don Imus was censured.
U NO HOO 06/27/2009 20:04
Robyn;
Censure (pronounced /ˈsɛnʃər/) is a process by which a formal reprimand is issued to an individual by an authoritative body.
Did he admit "the joke was in poor taste and apologized about a hundred times for it." ? Yes.
Was he gracious enough to apologize ? Not initially but was forced into a formal apology.
Read the words girl----"He received no censure."
Paul Chrastina 06/27/2009 16:38
"David Letterman "received no censure"? He admitted the joke was in poor taste and apologized about a hundred times for it. At least he was gracious enough to apologize, unlike Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, and all the other right wing comedians out there.
Report Robyn, 06/27/09 - 8:19AM "

Robyn,

What have Rush and/or Ann said that compares to David?

Oh, wait, Rush and Ann are not comedians, they speak the truth through satire or parody. Get it?

Thank you.

U NO HOO 06/27/2009 11:46
Who cares about a late night TV Joke,... Mr. Petrucci's letter regarding the complete and utter destruction of privacy and civil liberty is the more important letter. Not only do we have camera's everywhere, but the deterioration of language is a real occurance... now we go to war for peace... we stimulate the economy through more and more deficits...etc. etc.... the sheep-like majority of the American people that care more about American Idol than American history need to wake up before the government completely eliminates every right and liberty in our Constitution in order to "protect" us.
Vince Cruciani 06/27/2009 11:38
Mr. Griffin,

You said, "Recently a popular late-night talk show host made an inappropriate comment about a governor's teenage daughter on national television and received no censure for it."

I want to ask everyone who supported David Letterman how they would feel if he had made the comment about their daughter. People - Think about it!

Barbara 06/27/2009 08:34

Coroner: Police report on crash doesn't explain why wreck went unnoticed

By Charles Schillinger A state police report on an accident that killed a Taylor man in February does not explain why troopers from the Pocono Barracks failed to find the wreck off the Northeast Extension of the Pennsylvania Turnpike for three days, Lac



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