Poll: Pennsylvanians prefer program cuts to tax hike


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Fewer than a third of Pennsylvania adults think raising taxes is a good way to balance the state budget, while more than four in 10 prefer cutting programs and services, a new Franklin & Marshall College poll co-sponsored by Times-Shamrock Newspapers shows.

The poll also shows, for the first time, Pennsylvanians favoring a state law to allow civil unions for gay couples and allowing them some of the same rights as heterosexuals.

Only 29 percent of 580 people surveyed at random said the state General Assembly should hike taxes to overcome a projected $3.2 billion budget, deficit while 44 percent say they prefer the spending cuts, according to the poll.

The figures are likely to buttress the argument of Republicans in the state General Assembly who oppose Democratic Gov. Ed Rendell's push for a 16 percent increase in the state income tax.

"People don't want their taxes raised," said Steve Miskin, a spokesman for House Republicans. "They agree with our contention that it's a spending problem, not a revenue problem as the governor continues to insist."

Chuck Ardo, a spokesman for Mr. Rendell, said the governor doesn't live by polls and rather "believes in doing the right thing on behalf of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, both in the short term and long term."

"I wonder how many of the 44 percent would continue to support service cuts if they knew those service cuts included 800 fewer state troopers as well as eliminated subsidy (increases) available to school districts, which could result in higher property taxes," Mr. Ardo said.

The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.1 percentage points. Its other sponsors are the Philadelphia Daily News, WGAL-TV in Lancaster, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, WTAE-TV in Pittsburgh and WPVI-TV in Philadelphia.

G. Terry Madonna, Ph.D., the poll's director, said the recession is contributing to voter sentiment, though he acknowledged voters rarely say they like tax hikes.

"In a recession, voters just typically don't want to pay more in taxes, and many of them anticipate service or program cuts won't affect them personally," Dr. Madonna said.

He said the discussions in Washington about the nation's burgeoning deficit and the cost of proposed health care reform are probably playing into the sentiment. Residents also don't understand how the state could be receiving as much as $18 billion in federal stimulus money and not balancing its budget.

The stimulus money has been allocated for projects other than budget balancing.

The poll also showed the percentage of Pennsylvanians who believe the state is headed in the right direction declined from 48 percent in March to 44 percent while the percentage who think it's on the wrong track rose from 41 percent to 48 percent. Forty-three percent of Pennsylvanians said they are worse off financially from a year ago compared to 36 percent who said that in March.

The malaise is affecting Mr. Rendell's job-approval rating. Only 38 percent of those surveyed said he's doing an excellent or good job - down from 42 percent in February - compared to 59 percent who said he's doing a fair or poor job - up from 54 percent in February. The number of people who think he's doing a poor job is way up - 17 to 25 percent. And the gap between his favorability and unfavorability ratings has narrowed from 10 to 2 percentage points.

The General Assembly rates even worse, with 27 percent thinking it's doing an excellent or good job and 67 percent saying a fair or poor job.

The poll also showed:

- A sharp decline in U.S. Sen. Arlen Specter's job approval rating, from 52 percent to 34 percent.

Not surprisingly, his switch from Republican to Democrat cost him a lot of Republican support. Republican approval dropped 31 points. But Mr. Specter also dropped 11 points among Democrats and 3 points among independents. The percentage who say he deserves re-election dropped from 40 to 28 percent. And the percentage of people with a favorable view of him (31 percent) is well below those who have an unfavorable view (37 percent).

"They look at it (the switch) as a political move, and he's got a lot of work to do to convince them it was not just about him, it's about what he can do for the state," Dr. Madonna said.

The good news for Mr. Specter is he still has a large edge over his likely opponent for the Democratic nomination next year, U.S. Rep. Joe Sestak, a suburban Philadelphia congressman.

Mr. Specter had the support of 33 percent compared to 13 percent for Mr. Sestak in a poll of 258 Democrats that had a margin of error of plus or minus 6.1 percentage points. But the additional bad news is 48 percent, or almost half, don't know how they would vote, an ominous number for a longtime incumbent.

- Almost six in 10 people (58 percent) strongly or somewhat favor a law allowing civil unions for gay couples and giving them some of the same rights as heterosexuals.

That's way up from slightly more than four in 10 (42 percent) in February 2004. Opposition to such a law declined from 50 percent to 37 percent.

But a majority of Pennsylvanians still oppose marriage for gay couples. Almost half (48 percent) are in favor of a state constitutional amendment to define marriage as being between a man and a woman while slightly fewer (46 percent) oppose an amendment. Only 42 percent are in favor of amending the constitution to allow gay marriage while 52 percent are against.

- The percentage of people who think abortion should be legal under any circumstances declined slightly since August 2007 - 22 percent to 18 percent; the percentage who think it should be legal under certain circumstances rose from 56 percent to 58 percent in the same period; the percentage who think it should always be illegal rose from 21 percent to 22 percent.

Contact the writer: bkrawczeniuk@timesshamrock.com







23 posted comments

I happen to see Bob Mellow the other night on PCN towing the good ole party line with the scumbag Gov. Bobby, my friend, you have been in Harrisburg too, too long. YOU have become the problem, the problem spending is way out of line...as a former supporter and Lackawanna County residence,,,,it was sad to see you have lost you vision of what the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania should be...and not what it has become..what did Robert Kennedy....some people look at thing and ask why...other (with vision) ask why not...go ahead make my day...raise taxes..sooner or later the voters of Lackawanna County will show you up for what you are ...or become...a tax and spend democrat caring about your security...not your legacy!
Scott from Pittsburgh 06/25/09 07:55
WOW,"species specific treason"!

(Betcha can't say that fast three times.)
As a confirmed heterosexual, I'm trying to understand how a homosexual "marriage", "civil union" or whatever name you wish to give to it, is going destroy or simply harm my marriage.
Recognizing that homosexuality has existed since the evolutionary process has produced man/woman, it's difficult to consider that the human race is in danger of extinction ! The last time I checked, the hetereo's were doing a pretty good job of propagating our planet.
Having known and worked with homosexuals over the years, I found them to be pretty nice people. Almost like human beings! As a rule, they spoke well, some were smokers, others not. There were fat ones, skinny ones, tall and short ones. Some I liked, others I didn't. Again, like human beings !
I never talked about what goes on, with my wife and I, in the bedroom and they never brought up that subject either.
The old Charlie Rich song, " No one knows what goes on behind closed doors " comes to mind.
When it comes to religion and sex , I think the world would be a whole lot better off if everyone were to lead his/her own life.
Like, "mind your own business ".
We were all brought into this world the same way and we'll all go out the same way. It's that period in between life and death that's the problem. It really is a short amount of time.

A simple solution would be, "Do whatever it is that gets you through the night".

Paul Chrastina 06/25/09 07:21
Well I think people that practice a behavior that is contrary to the survival of the human race should be descrimated against....There behavior could be considered species specific treason!
Stash 06/25/09 05:34
To Vince C.: The American Psychological Association and the American Psychiatric Association are both on board saying homosexuality isn't a mental issue. I also believe it to have a physical reason, just like heterosexuality and I believe science will bear that out in time. I don't like to say a physical "cause"---sounds like an affliction other than that person's normal state of being. Stil, in the meantime, this "civil union" stuff is crap. Every single marriage in the US is a civil union because it's based on the law. In other countries, a church wedding isn't valid--you have to go to the local government to get married (city hall, etc.). In the US, we allow our clergy to do the same job, so you get a two-fer deal, so to speak. In that regard, every single male/female marriage in the US is a civil union. So, perhaps we should adjust those rights, if the civil unions for non-heteros will have limited rights as well. You can't have two types of civil unions with different rights---that's discriminatory.
PA native out of state 06/25/09 02:48
If homosexuality was right we all would be born with a penis and vagina so we"d be interchangeable. I believe the way we are built is the only evidence we need to show homosexuality is wrong! How could something be right if it would lead to the extinction of our species if it was universally practiced?
Tim 06/25/09 02:20
Charles BB Hatchko,
You better respect the Constitution too, it's the only reason you are able to freely prophess your 2,000 year old fairy tale... if they find the gay gene, then equal protection clause of the 14th amendment applies... whether you like it or not... until they do, the 14th amend does not apply... whether homosexual marriage advocates like it or not.. the Constitution is supreme in this country sir, not your bible.
Vince Cruciani 06/25/09 02:12
Same-Sex marriage violates every Biblical principle and Natural law principles. Homosexuality or Lesbianism are abominations that are condemned by Old and New Testament Scriptures. (Genesis 18:20)-and (Genesis 19:1-10) gives definitive evidence regarding the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah and the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah for sodomy. (Leviticus 18:22) states, Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is an abomination.
(Leviticus 20:13)states, If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman both of them has done what is detestable. They must be put to death. Remember the act is so abominable and horrific that the crime is punishable by death. (Romans 1:24-28) Biblical affirmation Here gives definitive evidence that the act of homosexuality and lesbianism violates natural law and calls the acts perversion. People involved in this immoral act are called people with the reprobate mind, the depraved mind. In (1 Corinthians 6:9-10) Sacred Scriptue gives definitive evidence that wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God. Homosexuality is mentioned in this Biblical texts.
(1 Timothy 1:10) gives evidence of the ungodly wickedness of same-sex. Natural law is the nature of God infused in man's heart and established by reason. Natural law can be found in the Bible in the following Biblical Texts--(Romans 2:14-15) King James or any Bible.
If Natural law jurisprudence was the law of America same-sex would not be allowed. Jurisprudence is the science or philosophy of law.
Pluralistic values and the relativist mind through a sterile individualism driven by hedonism is the destruction of morality in America. America has become a nation of reprobation./
Charles--Bible Buck--Hatchko 06/25/09 01:09
To PA native out of state:
If the gay gene is found, and homosexuality is proven to be "immutable", the most necessary aspect to qualify for Equal Protection under the Constitution, then the Jim Crow analogy would work... race is immutable, many including myself, think sexuality is, but until its proven that one is "born homosexual", the Constitution hasn't been violated.
Vince Cruciani 06/25/09 01:04
Civil unions for gays that have some of the rights as married people? Hmm. Separate but equal, eh? I believe that was the Jim Crow way of doing things and nobody thought that was a good idea then and it isn't now.
PA native out of state 06/25/09 11:48
First of all FRANK, im a state employee and we do pay for prescriptions and contribute to major medical. Its not our fault that you PICKED you profession and we PICKED ours. Instead of blaming others for their jobs, look in the mirror at your own course of life.
Out-of-towner 06/25/09 10:59
Mike Carol send me an email that most of the people he represents prefer tax hikes as apposed to making cuts.
BabaBooey 06/25/09 10:47
Doesn't the state run the liquor store system? There is absolutely NO reason why this state is running any type of deficit. Now there is talk of expanding the amount of bureaucrats running the PLCB. Please note everyone that the PLCB has shown significant growth over the past several years. (read: much more money into the coiffers) So, instead of trying to pay down our deficit, instead those in charge of it are hiring more people and adding more levels?

Greed, greed, greed. Step away from the trough you piggies and start learning how to budget your money. We (the people who elected your sorry butts) have to live within our means, it's time for you to do the same.

Ben 06/25/09 10:07
"I wonder how many of the 44 percent would continue to support service cuts if they knew those service cuts included 800 fewer state troopers as well as eliminated subsidy (increases) available to school districts, which could result in higher property taxes," Mr. Ardo said.

Um yes. Cut the troopers and all social programs. Do not raise school taxes. cut everything you need in order to balance the budget. (Feel free to vote yourself a pay decrease also)

Anony Mouse 06/25/09 09:53
I'm still waiting to benefit from all the casino revenues.
After all, it worked so well for New Jersey.
JD 06/25/09 09:51
We are all forced to invest in government through heavy taxes and quite frankly, I don't see where we are getting any return on our investment. All we seem to get is more government. Government needs the people more than the people need the government. Stick a pin in the government balloon before coming to us for any more money.
Andy 06/25/09 09:34
Republicans voted for this AS*, cronyism is not just a nepa thing. Where is all the money from gambling going? Ask the "commission" made up of ex judges and the like, still collecting there pensions and pulling in nice chunks of our hard earned money. I say again REVOLUTION Baby, arm thy self and prepare!
JL 06/25/09 09:32
Here's a simple a way to raise revenue... legalize marijuana... gain revenue by taxing it... save revenue otherwise spent in by hiring police, judicial officers, the prison system, and probation from enforcing non-violent crimes involving marijuana... it's called freedom, it works.
Daryl Starks 06/25/09 09:29
PS- Doesn't Pennsylvania have the largest full-time legislature in the USA? Let's start by paring that down to size.
Jerry 06/25/09 08:59
Under Governor Rendell we have already had an increase in the State income tax. We have gambling all over the State, which was supposed to result in lower real estate taxes. Has anybody's real estate taxes gone down lately??? Now Rendell want to tax us some more. Enough is enough!
Jerry 06/25/09 08:57
Cutting programs is a no brainer. How about cutting wages too? Raising taxes should not even be considered.
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