Diocese of Scranton adds collection to boost priests' benefits


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The Diocese of Scranton announced this weekend the start of a new monthly collection to help pay for the retirement, education and health care costs of priests.

In flyers tucked into parish bulletins on Father's Day, the diocese outlined the widening gap between the rising costs of clergy care and education and the insufficient funds available to pay for those programs.

Bishop Joseph F. Martino said a second collection to be held at Masses on the first weekend of every month will be used to cover what he called the "enormous" costs of training and care, which are currently not fully met by ordinary diocesan revenues.

In the 2008-2009 fiscal year, the diocese is $1.8 million short of the $8.6 million needed to pay for clergy care and education, according to diocesan figures. Parish assessments and funds raised through the diocesan annual appeal contributed $6.8 million for those programs.

Bishop Martino said the new monthly collection "seems to be the most effective and understandable way to meet our obligations to the clergy" rather than increasing the assessments paid by parishes throughout the diocese.

According to diocesan figures for the 2008-09 fiscal year:

- The diocese had to pay $1.1 million for "clergy support and medical assistance" above the $2.9 million parishes contributed to cover health insurance premiums for active priests. Diocese spokesman William Genello said he could not specify what accounted for those costs because they pertain to "medical or other personal issues," but he said "the diocese is obligated to provide necessary care for priests who might be dealing with a variety of personal issues." He also said the costs have exceeded the amount budgeted for them.

- Costs to run the Villa St. Joseph retirement home for priests exceeded the funds parishes contributed to operate it by $38,000.

- Health care costs for retired priests were more than double the $696,000 parishes contributed for those expenses.

- Seminary and clergy education cost $263,000, but the diocese projects education expenses "will increase significantly" in the next fiscal year. Mr. Genello said a number of priests will be engaged in advanced studies this year, in part because priests must be trained in specific areas, like Canon Law, as older priests with those specialities retire.

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151 posted comments

the priests only pay 300 a month to stay at the villa, that includes evrything for them. my monthly bills are 6 x's that. how about a collection for me and my family.
disgusted member 06/23/09 01:26
bechtel, how can you say with a straight face that the diocese provides jobs, when 55 were just let go? we can save a ton of money if allentown and scranton diocese consolidated together, only one bishop would be needed as well as one staff, lots of money to save by doing that. also one of my relatives was a priest in the diocese, and when he had to leave the villa for health reasons, the diocese did not assist him in anyway. so all that bull about helping the retired priests is just that bull. I refuse to give another penny to martino.
helen 06/23/09 01:24
Fr. Bechtel includes the following in his rebuttal below: "The salary for priests comes from the parish, not the diocese, as priests are employed by the parishes they serve, not the diocese. If a priest works for the diocese, then he would be paid by the diocese."

Any Catholic priest cannot be correctly described as an employee of a parish. The parish does not interview, hire, or fire their priest. Selection of a priest is determine by the bishop of the diocese as is the priest's tranfer from one parish to another. The parish has no contract of employment with the priest. The parish does not negotiate salary or benefits.
The parishes are not independent from the diocese. The recent closings and consolidations make that point clear. The parishes are the sole property of the diocese and by virtual of leadership role, the bishop.

I think there are more essential questions that need to be addressed:
1. What happens to the money generate by the sale of parish property in this restructuring? Of school property being liquidated?
2. If new parishes are being formed and named as a result of this restructuring, will there be a new financial relationaship between parish and dioces established?
3. If priests are to legal employees of the parish, can the parish negotiate employment terms, ie. health and retirement benefits?

Follow the money 06/23/09 01:23
Fr. Dave:
To clarify the parishes being told to "write a check" per the Catholic Light article: Pastors are permitted to use parish savings to reach their Appeal goal if they think this is necessary.
Also, the second collections may be canceled if the unmet parish
goal is attained before the two weekend collections have occurred.

And the suddenly -lightening strikes and:
Parish Status Report Update
Since the Parish Status Report was published on April 9, 21
more parishes have reached goal:
Parish Goal Pledges
St. Anthony, Scranton $10,194 $10,194
St. Francis of Assisi, Scranton $35,517 $35,517
St. Joseph, Scranton $17,629 $17,629
St. Joseph, Minooka $55,534 $55,534
St. Lucy, Scranton $27,477 $27,477
SS Peter & Paul, Scranton $22,396 $22,396
St. Thomas Aquinas, Archbald $40,274 $40,482
St. Gregory, Clarks Green $78,740 $78,760
St. Gabriel, Hazleton $40,761 $40,806
Our Lady of Grace, Hazleton $37,726 $37,726
St. Francis of Assisi, Mildred $ 9,119 $ 9,215
St. Mary, Old Forge $46,720 $46,720
St. Michael, Old Forge $16,561 $16,561
St. Michael, Simpson $12,016 $12,016
Holy Trinity, Swoyersville $40,454 $40,454
Immaculate Conception, Taylor $ 8,849 $ 8,849
St. John the Baptist, Taylor $ 9,831 $ 9,831
Maternity of BVM, Wilkes-Barre $32,363 $32,555
St. Aloysius, Wilkes-Barre $47,792 $47,792
Ascension, Williamsport $23,251 $23,368
Holy Rosary, Williamsport $ 6,675 $ 6,683
􀁸 59 parishes have now reached or surpassed their goals
􀁸 Total pledges: $4,717,439
􀁸 $582,561 still needed to make the overall campaign goal

All of these churches were well short of their goals until they were
advised to "write a check". We are not stupid - all dictators are alike - it's my way or I will make life very miserable for you. He ranks right up there with many, many others.

Had Enough 06/23/09 01:18
Father Dave Bechtel,
Excuse me, but I face reality every day. My kids used to attend Catholic school until Martino priced it out of my range, closed schools, fired teachers without warning and continues his dictatorship. He supplies jobs???? He eliminates jobs!!!!! I did contribut to the Annual Appeal - until he kept closing schools and ignoring the children that he needs to continue the Catholic faith in NEPA.
And in case you didn't read the first line of the article -
The Diocese of Scranton announced this weekend the start of a new monthly collection to help pay for the retirement, education and health care costs of priests. If that's not directly for priests I don't know what is. Or is it once again your blinder version of what you see. Take the blinders off - face reality - kick Martino back to Philadelphia ASAP. Maybe then you might reach the goals set and bring people back into church.
Had Enough 06/23/09 12:41
Father Dave,

The mission of the church should be to help the poor. I agree with the collection, priests need to get by to. However, Bishop Martino is driving many away with his policies.

How dare he go after Obama, especially when the Pope is meeting with Obama in July. The Pope supports Obama, why can't Martino? He is out of touch.

When we get a more modern bishop, collections will rise, drastically.

Exasperated Catholic 06/23/09 12:27
How much of the money will go to criminal defense & restitution funds. Not enough to pay for the blood, or should I say semen, on the hands of the Church.
Jackson Ruffin 06/23/09 12:25
And how much will be skimmed off the top to make up the shortfall in the bishop's appeal, since Mr Martino has alienated so many from their church?
John Smith 06/23/09 12:23
Father Dave Bechtel,
Excuse me, but I face reality every day. My kids used to attend Catholic school until Martino priced it out of my range, closed schools, fired teachers without warning and continues his dictatorship. He supplies jobs???? He eliminates jobs!!!!! I did contribut to the Annual Appeal - until he kept closing schools and ignoring the children that he needs to continue the Catholic faith in NEPA.
And in case you didn't read the first line of the article -
The Diocese of Scranton announced this weekend the start of a new monthly collection to help pay for the retirement, education and health care costs of priests. If that's not directly for priests I don't know what is. Or is it once again your blinder version of what you see. Take the blinders off - face reality - kick Martino back to Philadelphia ASAP. Maybe then you might reach the goals set and bring people back into church.
Had Enough 06/23/09 12:20
To Father Dave:
If certain priests had behaved responsibly, deciding that they couldn't curb their urges and therefore should leave the Church on their own accord, then tens of millions of dollars wouldn't have been spent in litigation and lawsuits paid by the Church maybe then there would have been enough money to go around. Or, instead of spending thousands upon thousands of dollars for exorbitant vestments, gold plated chalices and grandiose rectories, instead use that money where it's really needed: to help the poor and destitute members of this diocese. So, if you really practice what you preach, get rid of all these unnecessary adornments and then I will give you some of my hard earned money.
JM 06/23/09 12:10
Anti-Father Bechtel,

I think you misunderstood me. Whether that is intentional, (which is to say "a manufactured outrage" kind of thing) or you truly mistook what I was trying to say, only you know the answer to that.

Let me restate. What insenses me the most is when people who CAN, (Read: CAN) afford to contribute DON'T, or who CAN (read: CAN) afford to give in a more meaningful and substantial way, but only contribute a weekly dollar or change- then turn around and complain when the priest is always talking about money, or wonders why the church is not thriving and is always broke and can't do anything.

Please. I am not an monster. I have NEVER (read: NEVER) expected nor do I desire people who cannot afford to contribute to do so. In fact I would discourage it.

How do I determine what one can legitimately afford? If you read my post you would see that I never said I DETERMINE. I leave that to the people. They have to determine that. At the risk of sounding arrogant, let me give you an example: If someone is super rich and they are giving a dollar a week, I think it safe to say they can afford more then that. Wouldn't you? (Please don't tell me to define "super rich." Super Rich is what Super Rich does. People know when they are rich.

Furthermore what insenses me are the people who say "I give only a dollar a week, not more becasue the Church is super rich." Then again, these same people turn around and wonder why parishes are always broke, and always asking for more money.

I do want to thank you for whatever support you offer your Church. I am sure your pastor is grateful to you as well. I grant these are difficult times, and I grant people are not happy with the Bishop. The mission of the Church, however, must continue. It cannot come to a grinding halt just becasue people are upset. That is my point.

Father Dave Bechtel 06/23/09 12:00
Father Dave Bechtel,
Excuse me, but I face reality every day. My kids used to attend Catholic school until Martino priced it out of my range, closed schools, fired teachers without warning and continues his dictatorship. He supplies jobs???? He eliminates jobs!!!!! I did contribut to the Annual Appeal - until he kept closing schools and ignoring the children that he needs to continue the Catholic faith in NEPA.
And in case you didn't read the first line of the article -
The Diocese of Scranton announced this weekend the start of a new monthly collection to help pay for the retirement, education and health care costs of priests. If that's not directly for priests I don't know what is. Or is it once again your blinder version of what you see. Take the blinders off - face reality - kick Martino back to Philadelphia ASAP. Maybe then you might reach the goals set and bring people back into church.
Had Enough 06/23/09 11:54
To Father Dave:
If certain priests had behaved responsibly, deciding that they couldn't curb their urges and therefore should leave the Church on their own accord, then tens of millions of dollars wouldn't have been spent in litigation and lawsuits paid by the Church maybe then there would have been enough money to go around. Or, instead of spending thousands upon thousands of dollars for exorbitant vestments, gold plated chalices and grandiose rectories, instead use that money where it's really needed: to help the poor and destitute members of this diocese. So, if you really practice what you preach, get rid of all these unnecessary adornments and then I will give you some of my hard earned money.
JM 06/23/09 11:53
The bishop needs to face reality. He hides away behind closed doors and dictates whatever idiotic ideas come into his head. when he told the parishes that did not reach their Appeal assessment that their pastor would write out a check from the churches finances to cover the difference was the day I had enough. That is/was our money - the money from the people of the parish to take care of our parish - he has no right to demand it from anyone. Now he wants more - a second collection to take care of priests. Stop taking care of illegal's who come here expecting hand outs and get back to the basics of serving the people of the Scranton Diocese. Remember the word "serving" - that is what he is supposed to be doing - something he has no idea on how to do. He is a servant of God.
Had enough 06/23/09 11:42
Father Dave Bechtel my pension has been discontinued. Perhaps the bishop should look at cutting you pensions in order to make the budget.
Mike 06/23/09 11:38
Why are their priests in the Diocise that get their higher education paid for by the Diocise but are not assigned to a parish? Churches are being closed because there are not enough priests to cover all parishes. And now a special collection is going to be in place to pay for priests' education that are not being utilized in the churches. I don't follow the logic here.
Mike 06/23/09 11:36
My family supports the bishop and the clergy. We will contribute to the cause without complaint. They are doing a fantastic job and our parish is growing our membership and positive outlook for the future.
I laugh at all these people complaining in this comment section.
What a bunch of sorry nay sayers... they must all be on the Times payroll.
Steve T 06/23/09 11:28
Let him get it from Louie now that his funds are unfrozen.
BTF 06/23/09 10:31
It's kind of ironic isn't it? The health care industry is destroying this country but people like Bishop Martino attack President Obama and the democrats, someone who is trying to fix our healthcare mess. I have to laugh, when the problem hits home for conservative republicans we all have to pitch in to help them, but when the problem only affects the poor and the democrats, "why they should help themselves". Hey Bishop, go back to Philly, then people will come and support the church.
ps. Ever wonder why there is only one Catholic priest supporting Martino?
Ironic 06/23/09 10:27
Father Dave Bechtel,

If you thought your comments were persuasive think again. In fact, your comments have only illustrated how arrogant and ignorant you are. As a priest, how do you determine "what is resonably affordable?" Do you base your arguement off of the family that you have? The job that you recently lost? The medical bills that you have to pay out of pocket because your insurance doesn't cover it? What do you mean by "You practice what you preach?" You practice telling others what they can afford without understanding every unique financial situation? Who are you to be a shephard? You sound more like a sheep, a sheep of the bishop who is dying for a cushy job at Wyoming Ave. I do contribute a lot to the church, and I attend weekly, but I've never been so insensed by a priests' statement. This is why parishioners are leaving the church, because the church shows no sensitivity. If you were my parish priest you would probably get coal for christmas.

The anti-Father Bechtel 06/23/09 10:18
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